Well, I downgraded boinc manager to 6.12.34 and installed Catalyst 11.9
Cat 11.9 works with all other projects on my ATI 5850 except for SETI(lunatics astropulse app), well it works and uses 100% CPU(an ATI bug they say).
So I am sad that I now can't do any tasks here.
But I'll be around reading the forum, maybe there soon will be a stable boinc 6.13 soon.
BM 6.13.12 really messed up the scheduling.....
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So I guess :
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A simple "NO you can't" from a program developer would have been a nice reply
Mike,
there are no cheers anywhere in your message. Just a complete disregard for crunchers.
Sorry that I even asked anything in my first message of this thread. So just let it run as it was... as TRuEQ says, at least let's have the stats export running.
Cheers to all the projects that give credit and export stats, as that is the only reward we get for burning electricity and buying expensive hardware to help project owners crunch their stuff, be it science or crap (that we cannot influence).
KPX
I'm rather boggled by the queries here. Which part of "If you care about credit, this project is certainly not the right one for you." ( .... etc ) was unclear ? :-)
The fact that one can lose crunching time and credits because of whatever reason (bad batch, bad app, etc), that part is always inherent in test projects. That risk is always part of the testing process, and people are used to that.
The unclear (or rather the "surprising") part is where stats were being exported. This attracted a bunch of testers, and now they are being told the tasks in process will not be rewarded (assuming they validate). It would have been nice to be told in advance that this was going to change in advance. That would have given everyone time to empty their queues first, if they did not want to continue testing under the new policy change. I will ask again, Can the stats please be exported one last time (after the server has come back up and we have a change to return work in progress)?
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What is or is not done elsewhere ( +/- Mr Anderson ) is a non-question, and argument by plurality is a non-sequitir also. We aren't elsewhere, we're here. :-)
My list was not an argument either for or against exporting stats. The project asked the question, so I answered the question for the project. Simple as that.
Finally, I was never asking for more/less credits. I was (am) just asking for credits, whatever they may be, to continue to be exported. This was in another thread. But that other thread got locked, and discussion was redirected to this one.
The fact that one can lose crunching time and credits because of whatever reason (bad batch, bad app, etc), that part is always inherent in test projects. That risk is always part of the testing process, and people are used to that.
I have to agree, the Project Abruptly Aborted over 700 Pending Wu's of mine several weeks ago giving the reason the Wu's couldn't be Validated. Yet the very same day the same Types of Wu's were being Validated for other Participants and still are up to this day. I didn't complain about it even though I lost Thousands of Hr's of Processing Time as many of the Wu's were run by CPU & took up to 15 Hr's to run.
I even reported the Gravitational Wave S6 GC search v1.01 (SSE2) Error Messages here >>> http://albertathome.org/node/84766 & what was my Reward, 700+ Wu's Aborted by the Project. Thanks for Nothing, the Project got the work done & I got the Green Weenie. Now all I see from the Project is if you don't like it then leave.
Well that's exactly what most Participants will do except for the Die Hards, If the Project can't at least give Credit whatever it may be & Export the Credit's then there's not much to keep most Participants here & you'll end up running the Wu's yourself.
there's not much to keep most Participants here & you'll end up running the Wu's yourself.
Actually the latter is exactly what this project was originally meant for. We never ever asked anyone to sign up (or use the old Einstein@Home account key here) for this project except for friendly developers in order to develop and test some technical features. (BTW, that's why I still doubt that the Albert@Home participants that do care about credit are the majority, i.e. "most participants".) Exporting stats was rather accidentally, as the configuration was copied over from a working project which exported stats (actually Albert@Home is an old Einstein@Home project server). Albert@Home stats were never intended to be listed anywhere, and e.g. BOINCStats still doesn't include these.
Which stats sites do list Albert@Home, and why? How did they learn about Albert@Home? Until a week ago this project had never been announced anywhere.
This reminds me of a sign in a local shop "don't ask for credit as a refusal often offends" ..... :-)
too bad this is YOUR local shop. not in real life, but in boincworld. some out here do care for credits, others do not. but crunching without any chance to get ones efforts listed on the stats sites is senseless in boincworld.
if you do not want to run things like other offical test-projects do, just block public access and close the whole case.
So I guess : RE: A simple
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So I guess :
hasn't suited you for this thread then ? ;-)
Cheers, Mike.
"I have made this letter longer than usual, because I lack the time to make it short." - Blaise Pascal
Well, I downgraded boinc
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Well, I downgraded boinc manager to 6.12.34 and installed Catalyst 11.9
Cat 11.9 works with all other projects on my ATI 5850 except for SETI(lunatics astropulse app), well it works and uses 100% CPU(an ATI bug they say).
So I am sad that I now can't do any tasks here.
But I'll be around reading the forum, maybe there soon will be a stable boinc 6.13 soon.
BM 6.13.12 really messed up the scheduling.....
//TQ
RE: ... Cheers,
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Mike,
there are no cheers anywhere in your message. Just a complete disregard for crunchers.
Sorry that I even asked anything in my first message of this thread. So just let it run as it was... as TRuEQ says, at least let's have the stats export running.
Cheers to all the projects that give credit and export stats, as that is the only reward we get for burning electricity and buying expensive hardware to help project owners crunch their stuff, be it science or crap (that we cannot influence).
KPX
RE: I'm rather boggled by
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The fact that one can lose crunching time and credits because of whatever reason (bad batch, bad app, etc), that part is always inherent in test projects. That risk is always part of the testing process, and people are used to that.
The unclear (or rather the "surprising") part is where stats were being exported. This attracted a bunch of testers, and now they are being told the tasks in process will not be rewarded (assuming they validate). It would have been nice to be told in advance that this was going to change in advance. That would have given everyone time to empty their queues first, if they did not want to continue testing under the new policy change. I will ask again, Can the stats please be exported one last time (after the server has come back up and we have a change to return work in progress)?
My list was not an argument either for or against exporting stats. The project asked the question, so I answered the question for the project. Simple as that.
Finally, I was never asking for more/less credits. I was (am) just asking for credits, whatever they may be, to continue to be exported. This was in another thread. But that other thread got locked, and discussion was redirected to this one.
Dublin, California
Team: SETI.USA
RE: The fact that one can
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I have to agree, the Project Abruptly Aborted over 700 Pending Wu's of mine several weeks ago giving the reason the Wu's couldn't be Validated. Yet the very same day the same Types of Wu's were being Validated for other Participants and still are up to this day. I didn't complain about it even though I lost Thousands of Hr's of Processing Time as many of the Wu's were run by CPU & took up to 15 Hr's to run.
I even reported the Gravitational Wave S6 GC search v1.01 (SSE2) Error Messages here >>> http://albertathome.org/node/84766 & what was my Reward, 700+ Wu's Aborted by the Project. Thanks for Nothing, the Project got the work done & I got the Green Weenie. Now all I see from the Project is if you don't like it then leave.
Well that's exactly what most Participants will do except for the Die Hards, If the Project can't at least give Credit whatever it may be & Export the Credit's then there's not much to keep most Participants here & you'll end up running the Wu's yourself.
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RE: there's not much to
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Actually the latter is exactly what this project was originally meant for. We never ever asked anyone to sign up (or use the old Einstein@Home account key here) for this project except for friendly developers in order to develop and test some technical features. (BTW, that's why I still doubt that the Albert@Home participants that do care about credit are the majority, i.e. "most participants".) Exporting stats was rather accidentally, as the configuration was copied over from a working project which exported stats (actually Albert@Home is an old Einstein@Home project server). Albert@Home stats were never intended to be listed anywhere, and e.g. BOINCStats still doesn't include these.
Which stats sites do list Albert@Home, and why? How did they learn about Albert@Home? Until a week ago this project had never been announced anywhere.
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RE: This reminds me of a
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too bad this is YOUR local shop. not in real life, but in boincworld. some out here do care for credits, others do not. but crunching without any chance to get ones efforts listed on the stats sites is senseless in boincworld.
if you do not want to run things like other offical test-projects do, just block public access and close the whole case.
RE: Which stats sites do
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Free-DC List the Stats from Albert, "Why" apparently they were exported at some point in time, other than that I don't pay attention to the other Sites ... http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=proj&proj=alb
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I don't understand why we should block access for people that aren't interested in credits.
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RE: Free-DC List the Stats
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Do these stat sites crawl the web for sites offering BOINC stats files?
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