going to have to pass on this project
13 Dec 2011 4:40:55 UTC
Topic 84799
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Several reasons.
1) 61 WU sent to me and approximately 2 gb of data to download. I don't think so. This isn't a movie.
2) terrible credit for work completed. 500 credits, really? really!?
I can't see running a WU for 90 minutes on my GPU and getting a whole 500 credits.
Not to be blunt but my time spent on seti is more worthwhile. Just running my GPU at seti gets me around 1000 credits and Seti is a slower project for ATI cards.
If I match that time on Milkyway I get 14000+ . Oh, I know its all about the science. I think can find better use for my time though I will complete the 1 current WU I am working on.
going to have to pass on this project
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The credits aren't exported anyway, so what does it matter what you're paid? It's a testing project, where new apps for Einstein will be tested. What part of the front page that warned about this did you not understand?
And since it is a testing project and lots of things will not give any credit, one shouldn't put a production system on here and make it download a full cache of work. That's just overkill for nowt.
Well then you have my
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Well then you have my evaluation. I didn't ask you to like it.
Right so doing something
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Right so doing something experimental like any other beta project yet getting nothing to show for it. How heroically stupid. what part of boinc don't you understand. You sign up for work, you get work, you get paid for the work. It's just that simple. You don't Pay. I won't play... again I guess you don't get the idea of feedback. That's an American term used to describe pros and cons of anything. I did just that. Now you deem it necessary to insult me. fine. IGNORE button is pushed
Right so doing something
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Right so doing something experimental like any other beta project yet getting nothing to show for it. How heroically stupid. what part of boinc don't you understand. You sign up for work, you get work, you get paid for the work. It's just that simple. You don't Pay. I won't play... again I guess you don't get the idea of feedback. That's an American term used to describe pros and cons of anything. I did just that. Now you deem it necessary to insult me. fine. IGNORE button is pushed
Very mature. Post flame bait.
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Very mature. Post flame bait. PM me about the obvious answer you get on that. Why post in the first place if you can't get the obvious answers? Just to rant? Are these the forums to rant in? Then put me on ignore because you can't take the answer or don't like the messenger. Absolute mature behaviour.
I'm guessing the admins don't
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I'm guessing the admins don't quite get what our little underground (for lack of a better term) group of beta testers do. Whenever a new project pops up, word gets passed around through or team forums, IRC channels, etc. There's some hardcore guys with enough cores and gpus to put a serious strain on a new project.
Some jump in just for the chance to beta test, some jump in to add another new project to a certain milestone or two. I'm in that group, love to throw my cpus and gpu's on a new project, in hopes of adding another million credit project to my pile of 40ish I've done already.
Seems like admins doesn't want us here. Which is a shame, this is what we do.
RE: I'm guessing the admins
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I certainly can understand your motivations, however, I would argue that a beta project is not the best choice for that. A beta project is a (sometimes) long bumpy road where we sign up to purposefully stub our toes and faces on any jagged corners the software has in the hopes of discovering bugs/inefficiencies to help fix them. The end goal is to help the devs to develop a solid release everyone can then use.
Credit is the last of anyone's concern. I'd say you are in the wrong place. Also, not to be a d!ck, but I'd say credit grubbing is contradictory to beta testing entirely.
I'm getting 500 credits here
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I'm getting 500 credits here for every WU done on my CPU. The same credits I would get on Einstein@home in much less time.But I know this is a beta project, like Test4Theory@home which I am running too. I like beta projects, otherwise BOINC is a rather dull environment.
Tullio
Well, to be honest: this is a
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Well, to be honest: this is a test and devel project. The main purpose is to help the devs to do their work, not to get credits. We (the crunchers) are getting credits ... for what reason ever. May be for testing the credit system. Someone may jump in here to earn milestones, credits and badges ... but then I like to ask if you noticed what Bernd wrote at http://albert.phys.uwm.edu/index.php
About Albert@Home
In case you intended to join Einstein@Home, please follow this link.
Albert@Home is a test project ran by the Einstein@Home team. You are welcome to join if you want to help us test features or fixes that may later be transferred to Einstein@Home. However please keep in mind that this is a test project:
Most of the time Albert@Home will have no work to run at all, and when it has, the applcations are experimental, might be unstable, unreliable and may even damage your computer. Validation might be unreliable and we may cancel workunits without prior notice. If you care about credit, this project is certainly not the right one for you. For short:
Don't expect ANYTHING to work here.
I see the point of the devs: the want helpers. Any kind of helpers. Credit hunters are welcome as well as people (like me) who don't care for credits. I'm here for curiosity and for helping the Einstein devs. Credits are a nice bonus ... but as they don't get exported they are a meter for what ever one like to measure.
It is the nature of a test project that the workunits differ from the official project because the may contain debugging info and what else the devs decide to test. When the workunits will be bigger and will take longer to compute ... okay. When they are shorter than the official workunits ... it would be okay too.
But joining a test program and then complaining is what I do not understand. One have the choice to join ... and then see how the project is running. After some workunits one can stay or leave. Or do some micrositting and let the boinc fetch a few workunits every day so that the influence for the official projects and the credits earned will not that high.
Whatever one likes to do ... in my eyes there is no point to tell about the reasons when one leaves this test project in the " Problems and Bug Reports" forum. I don't believe that this piece of information will help solving bugs in the program code. For telling the devs what could be done better during the test ... there is the "Wish List" forum.
With this in my mind ...
best regards.
Stephan
I have completed one unit in
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I have completed one unit in about 55 hours run time. Now my ETA is 435 hours and of course the unit is running in high priority. But I have completed 28% in about 13 hours, so I am going to suspend it.
Tullio